The Barna Update: April 9, 2007
Posted by ljoh3106 on April 11, 2007
You’d think that after thousands of years of practice, humans would have figured out how to consistently raise God-honoring children. Even a cursory examination of our society shows that’s obviously not the case. Barna’s new book, released this week, is entitled Revolutionary Parenting and it cites the results of a long-term research study conducted to figure out what perspectives and practices are most likely to produce spiritual champions. The study revealed that there are six critical dimensions for parents to master as they raise their youngsters. Read the free Barna Update about the book, as well as a sample section from the book. To read the full story, click here www.barna.org
Research Shows Parenting Approach Determines Whether Children Become Devoted Christians
Just looking said
God honoring? You mean man pleasing really, God loves us all already and this idea that you teach that his love is contengent on our behavior is a lie.
No, Larry you are not talaking about honoring God, but pleasing men.
Open you eyes.
Just looking said
Oh yes the moderation deal, when a Good Christian man becomes afraid of what others have to say, shut them down, burn the books, make sure no one hear anything but the message of go to hell you preach.
LOL
What a fool I was for every having fallen prey to the lies and heresy of what you call Chrisitanity. You are just as pagan as the rest and as wrong as the mormons.
ljoh3106 said
God does love us, but doesn’t that mean that we should honor Him? If we are saved, shouldn’t that be a response to His saving grace? And one way we honor God is treating other people as He has treated us. What wrong with that?
Are you honoring God in your life? Are you setting an example for your child to honor God? Thats what this article is about. Where is the lies and heresy in that?
Just looking said
Who said we should not honor him, clean out your ears.
I am saying that whay you SAY honors God is not always true and it is WRONG for you to assume that you have some great handle on what honors God and what does not honor God.
After all God told one man to marry a hooker and let her have children out of her prostetution, you would not think that as honoring God. But God asked him to do it.
The problem here is you think that honoring God is clear cut, you could even write down what honors God and what does not, and judge what others do as honoring God or not.
You would have certianly said the prophet God told to marry a hooker was not honoring God in your judgment and you would be wrong.
No, Larry being religous and pompus is not about God it is about man.
ljoh3106 said
You didn’t answer my question. Are you honoring God? Forget about others. What are you doing to honor God? Thats what is really important for each of us.
I’m not being “pompus” or religious. Its about our relationship with Jesus. Jesus said: “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. (Joh 14:15) and also: Jesus answered, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. The one who doesn’t love Me will not keep My words. The word that you hear is not Mine but is from the Father who sent Me.
(Joh 14:23-24)
just looking said
Oh I did answer your question, just not the way you wanted me to and that is your problem. You have everything just so or it does not count.
You are being religous in this matter, in thinking that honoring God is something you can define. It is not !
You must realize the bible is much more then a verse here and one there, you are very weak in any real biblical studies.
Through out the scriptures God is asking men to do things you would not consider God honoring, by your own man made definition.
Even men who did not believe in God and where against him, ended up doing things to honor God.
For example the pahoro refusing to let the people go and making them work harder, as God said was in the end for his glory. So the world may know that God is God.
You do not know what you are doing for Gods honor and glory, you cannot know the bigger picture and if you waist time trying to define it, you are only playing the fools game of trying to know the mind of God.
You can talk to Job about that, what happened when he tried to know the mind of God? He was made out to be fool.
So, Larry in your stuborness you fail once again to learn a lesson from someone, you think you are the teacher and you are not.
God is doing what God is doing, and you cannot do a thing to change it, or help him along. For every deed you think you are honoring God with 50 have been done which you would condemn.
Try listening for a change.
just looking said
Let me add as well that it was God who hardens hearts, and there for even the hardest heart is still serving the will of God.
Think I am wrong? I know you do, though I am right all the time.
Read the book of Exodus and see who what in charge of hardening and softening hearts.
ljoh3106 said
I have learned more about human nature from you than you can imagine. But certainly nothing about the nature of God. I let God’s Word be my guide for that. It’s unfortunate that even when I quote the Bible, you still fault me on that. Are you a Christian or not?
I agree completely that God has used very unrightous people to further His plans. Thats beside the point. Jesus says that if we love Him, we will keep His commandments. He said that if we don’t forgive our brothers, God will not forgive us.
You can’t write a comment on this website without going out of your way to insult me or the others who are part of the house church.
And now you are saying you are “right all the time”. Do you really think anyone is taking you seriously?
just looking said
The church teaches
There is nothing you can do to be saved
Then says
here is what you must do to be saved.
You don’t see the problem with this? How can it be that we can do nothig to be saved, yet you can teach me how I must be saved. Tell me what I must do to be saved, which in your world is repenting and acting the right way.
What ever that is?
For example in the pentencostal movement, some say spiritual wemon would not wear make up, but in the word of faith movement the more makeup the more spiritual.
So two churches cannot agree what is spiritual
But you insist that being a chrisitan means you act this way or that.
Oh I know you “follow” the bible…so does the pope and you would not agree with him would you.
Sad the church is a sad abusive mess.